[Miata'er]

hey guys, im pretty much back from the dead lol, i just sold my mustang like 5hrs ago literally and need a miata like right away,

i need your guy's help! :mrgreen:

ok, so i want to know what year is the coolest/best...some of you may know my sibling, mazdakid,

anyways, i heard 92-94 was the best? pref 93. so i looked on CL and found like 2 good manual cars...if anyone knows any good deals out there can you let me know asap? my budget is 4k but id like to spend $3.5 and down

also any good info you have on miatas i should know about? idk im totally new to imports and stuff

 

[whitebeau]

get a 94+ .gots the 1.8 . and better rear diff, especially if you source a torsen LSD.

I personally like the 1st gen just because...

welcome to the opposite spectrum, 10 on handling, a 3 on power.. but the weight will keep things in good perspective. if you got $ power can be had.

note - the 1.8 has allot more mods for the engine vs the 1.6...

 

[Colossians3:17]

well im new to miata as well and i just got my 94 1.8l glass window 2 days ago... and after driving for few hours i like how the car handles.

 

[Miata'er]

get a 94+ .gots the 1.8 . and better rear diff, especially if you source a torsen LSD.

I personally like the 1st gen just because...

welcome to the opposite spectrum, 10 on handling, a 3 on power.. but the weight will keep things in good perspective. if you got $ power can be had.

note - the 1.8 has allot more mods for the engine vs the 1.6...

well im new to miata as well and i just got my 94 1.8l glass window 2 days ago... and after driving for few hours i like how the car handles.

well i did find a crazy deal on a 97 for 4k with 80k miles, sick little car,

but i heard that the 1.8l is more sluggish at higher rpms, plus the fact that it has OBD2 which is harder with emissions, are these any flaws?

also, im going to mod the car, not going to keep it stock,

rollbar,
hardtop,
etc...

 

[H_C]

I'm kinda biased to the '93s.
OBD I, only 1 airbag to deal/remove with, and no short nose crank to deal with.

Sure, compared to the NA8's there's not many NA6 power mods. But sometimes its more fun to drive a slower, more raw car. :mrgreen:

 

[Miata'er]

I'm kinda biased to the '93s.
OBD I, only 1 airbag to deal/remove with, and no short nose crank to deal with.

Sure, compared to the NA8's there's not many NA6 power mods. But sometimes its more fun to drive a slower, more raw car. :mrgreen:

well im going to remove the airbags anyways, cause im going to install a sparco wheel i have thats been lying around for 3 years lol

 

[whitebeau]

meh. i got a 91' the short nose went from 90-mid91 (I lucked out, long nose). 200hp i think would be the sweet spot. 300hp is possible on a 1.6 with a bottom end worked on. OBD2 really isn't a big deal imo, local emissions is probably the biggest enemy, Cali is pretty hardcore on emissions tests.

so yeah, alot of turbo options for the 1.6 .. ITRB is also an option but making 200hp is stretching it from the ones i've seen.

2 supercharger options, and there's the rotrex option KIT still in development for the last 3 years. you can get a non CARB kit if your up to doing your own fuel management.

So if your looking at doing 170-200ish hp, yeah it's doable with a 1.6 under 3k. Handling options are pretty epic for all generations. Coilovers will work between NA/NB 'NB having less thick tophats/more preferred'.

 

[whitebeau]

ah.. the rear diff on the 94+ i think seals the deal for me. I just finished swapping my old diff with a 1.8 MazdaSpeed miata (MSM) that has a torsen, and it's a completely different car. sliding with an open was just sketchy.

 

[H_C]

well im going to remove the airbags anyways, cause im going to install a sparco wheel i have thats been lying around for 3 years lol

What I mean is that if you're going to remove airbags from 94+, then you'll have to find an aftermarket airbag cover for your passenger's side.

 

[Miata'er]

meh. i got a 91' the short nose went from 90-mid91 (I lucked out, long nose). 200hp i think would be the sweet spot. 300hp is possible on a 1.6 with a bottom end worked on. OBD2 really isn't a big deal imo, local emissions is probably the biggest enemy, Cali is pretty hardcore on emissions tests.

so yeah, alot of turbo options for the 1.6 .. ITRB is also an option but making 200hp is stretching it from the ones i've seen.

2 supercharger options, and there's the rotrex option KIT still in development for the last 3 years. you can get a non CARB kit if your up to doing your own fuel management.

So if your looking at doing 170-200ish hp, yeah it's doable with a 1.6 under 3k. Handling options are pretty epic for all generations. Coilovers will work between NA/NB 'NB having less thick tophats/more preferred'.

cool, my plans for the miata are to get it supercharged, i like instant power you know? :roll:
also id like to up the suspension since id like to make it my DD and also a somewhat track car, i have big plans for the miata, i just dont want to find out that the 93 has 1billion more cool options than the 97 does etc...

 

[wajalama]

well i did find a crazy deal on a 97 for 4k with 80k miles, sick little car,

but i heard that the 1.8l is more sluggish at higher rpms, plus the fact that it has OBD2 which is harder with emissions, are these any flaws?

also, im going to mod the car, not going to keep it stock,

rollbar,
hardtop,
etc...

Then your best choice would be to get the 94-95 NA Miatas, they've got the 1.8 AND the OBD1 ecu.

The 1.8's aren't sluggish at all, it's just that the differential gearing in the 1.6's are shorter and probably a slightly lighter flywheel, which is why people think the 1.6 revs "faster", which isn't true.

 

[Miata'er]

Then your best choice would be to get the 94-95 NA Miatas, they've got the 1.8 AND the OBD1 ecu.

The 1.8's aren't sluggish at all, it's just that the differential gearing in the 1.6's are shorter and probably a slightly lighter flywheel, which is why people think the 1.6 revs "faster", which isn't true.

interesting, thanks

are most mods the same for a 90-93 to a 94-95? mods for anything/everything or does the car differ a lot besides the engine?

 

[whitebeau]

you can get an aftermarket cover:
http://www.axispowerracing.com/miatapartsdetail.asp?id=33

or DIY Airbag delete/retain cover:
http://www.miata.net/garage/pass_airbag_rem.html

 

[H_C]

interesting, thanks

are most mods the same for a 90-93 to a 94-95? mods for anything/everything or does the car differ a lot besides the engine?

Body parts are interchangeable with 90-95. Electrical (ECU) and engine parts aren't.

 

[whitebeau]

interesting, thanks

are most mods the same for a 90-93 to a 94-95? mods for anything/everything or does the car differ a lot besides the engine?

Suspension is identical for both.

Engine mods for the 1.6 are starting to become 2nd priority. Since the 1.8 continues into the 2000s (life of the NB). There is separate class for the 1.6. Also the Flywheel/clutch can be used on either a 1.6 or 1.8 and vicaversa as long as the flywheel/clutch are the same.

Check out the thread on the rotrex & miatabusa... if things stay on track there's a chance a miatabusa kit will be out this year. Lol or you can drop in your Mustang engine... FlyingMiata (Sponsor) has a full kit for it to :fab::domo:

 

[kumar oc]

for the amount of money you are putting out it has to be a 1.8 clean and possibly a hardtop these are southern cali prices 3-4k is a nice clean miata with hardtop 1-3k is anything from a daily driver beater to a descent car