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You may have just become aware of Nihon Automobile College (NATS) after reading the articles on Winding Road and Autoblog about the Honda Beat/NSX show car displayed at the 2007 Tokyo Auto Salon. However, unless you're a true hardcore JDM fan you probably didn't know they've also made some pretty remarkable Roadster based concept cars.

NATS displayed this Meister concept at the 2001 TAS.


I'm having a hard time finding good information about this car since I don't understand Japanese but I did find a Korean webpage about it. Here's the crappy Google translation:

Global Auto News said:
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If you find any more pics or details about this car please post up.
 

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There are many things on this forum that will divide opinion. If something doesn't appeal to your aesthetic sensibilities please be respectful and quietly move on. Leave the hateraide at the door, thank you.
 

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There are many things on this forum that will divide opinion. If something doesn't appeal to your aesthetic sensibilities please be respectful and quietly move on. Leave the hateraide at the door, thank you.
If I wasn't being respectful, I'd have said "that's one ugly fucking piece of ****" However, I was being respectful, to some degree, and said what I did. You can't take a little "hateraide" here and there, then you shouldn't be on the internet.
 

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Or maybe you could help make this place a sanctuary from all the negativity that seems to overwhelm many other automotive forums? It doesn't add any value to this place when all people do is spout negative opinions of things that are clearly subjective. I know I wouldn't enjoy a forum where people talked about how much they hate stuff.
 

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Or maybe you could help make this place a sanctuary from all the negativity that seems to overwhelm many other automotive forums? It doesn't add any value to this place when all people do is spout negative opinions of things that are clearly subjective. I know I wouldn't enjoy a forum where people talked about how much they hate stuff.
I didn't say I hated it. What I said was supposed to be somewhat funny, I find that car ugly, and I wasn't entirely sure if you actually liked the way it looked or not. Negative comments are inevitable. I didn't directly attack or criticize anyone in my original statement, if your feelings got hurt anyways, then I can't help you.
 

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My sarcasm meter must have been broken. I feel that if you're writing a Tom Tjaarda or Gordon Murray style design critique that's fine. But if all you've got is a thoughtless one-liner it doesn't help anybody and lowers the quality of the forum. Remember, the owner of this car might be a member or potential member of this site. I don't go around saying how ugly I think your car is. My feelings weren't hurt by your statement. Negative comments are inevitable, and is seems especially so from those members who contribute very little substance to this place. However, moderators reserve the right to edit/delete any inappropriate comments as they see fit. I'm not trying to shut you up, but I would appreciate it if you'd be a little more thoughtful before posting keeping in mind the type of positive attitude we're trying to build here.
 

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Freedomgli this is America, if somebody does not like something they have every right to say so. Even if it is not a very tackful or effective comment. If that is the way they feel, then so be it. If that member has a problem with what someone has expressed, so what. Take it with a grain of salt, and deal with it. There are grown men and women here correct? There is so many other things in life to worry about then always correcting people for making comments that might affend someone. Big deal! I'm not trying to be a bad guy here, but damn man it's just sombody's opinion. :x
 

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Freedomgli this is America, if somebody does not like something they have every right to say so. Even if it is not a very tackful or effective comment. If that is the way they feel, then so be it. If that member has a problem with what someone has expressed, so what. Take it with a grain of salt, and deal with it. There are grown men and women here correct? There is so many other things in life to worry about then always correcting people for making comments that might affend someone. Big deal! I'm not trying to be a bad guy here, but damn man it's just sombody's opinion. :x
couldnt agree more =D>
 

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I think the combo of the flash and the white make it look a little odd, I bet a better picture would make it look hot.

I kinda like it. like somewhere between a miata and a old cosmo
 

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Freedomgli this is America, if somebody does not like something they have every right to say so. Even if it is not a very tackful or effective comment. If that is the way they feel, then so be it. If that member has a problem with what someone has expressed, so what. Take it with a grain of salt, and deal with it. There are grown men and women here correct? There is so many other things in life to worry about then always correcting people for making comments that might affend someone. Big deal! I'm not trying to be a bad guy here, but damn man it's just sombody's opinion. :x
This isn't America, this is the internet (which is serious business in case you don't know ;)). More specifically, this is Club Roadster, which is an English language international forum for discussion of Mazda Roadster Tuning. Certainly there are many people who wish to express their opinion but I have little respect or value for negative, non-constructive statements about someone else's car. I don't ever want people here to say "that's one ugly fucking piece of ****", "+1", "ricer if I ever saw one", etc. If someone wants to talk like that they're not helping the positive atmosphere that we're trying to build at Club Roadster and perhaps they need to think about whether they should continue to participate here. We can help shape the tone and attitude of this place so as not to become like the shark infested waters of other automotive forums. This is our place and we want to keep it nice. I'm not against people having opinions or expressing them per se but please put a little thought into what you're saying and if you must criticize a particular aesthetic preference then PLEASE BE NICE AND CONSTRUCTIVE. To all those people who just like to talk **** about how somebody else is doing their thing I have to ask didn't your mama ever teach you that if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all?

The problem with negative posts is that they overwhelm the positive posts, make the overall feel of the forum hateful and vicious, dramatically lowers forum morale and therefore lowers the overall quality of this place. Instead of cutting styles down, focus your efforts on building styles up.
 

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Well, unfortunately Freedom, we're going to get more opinions. This forum isn't a socialist forum, its an open-minded forum. I understand where you're coming from b/c well...the 2 of us have been through this....lol
Negative comments won't overwhelm the positive as long as they aren't an abundance on this site.
The underlying problem I see here involved political correctness.....which is a huge waste of time. People need to grow a shell and get over things, not dwell on them and take them to heart. This country has become full of pansies who can't "get over" something or "pass it by." Instead they think they're entitled to some form of apology or lawsuit or something.

Ok, off the soap box now....

Guys, be nicer about what you say. Seriously. When you post things that are disrespectful, it makes this site look like...Miata.net or Zilvia.net....and that well....sucks.

Can Moderators edit posts? If so. Do it. While it might "violate" free speech (which never existed to begin with) to an extent, this isn't society....this is a freakin' car forum.

I will say that I'm not diggin' the headlights b/c well....they make the car look like a bug. But the fenders....well....that shits hot.
 

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Christ freedom, chill out man. What I said implied that I thought that particular vehicle was ugly. Is "ugly" now a vulgarity??? If I would have posted my original reply to your thread as a statement full of profanity and threats of killing that car's creator's family, yeah, I could understand someone getting upset a little bit.

But I didn't. So ease up some.
 

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I understand your point. I'll try to ease up a bit. At the time I just couldn't stand deviating from my point and I carried it a bit far. So long as the hate doesn't start to overwhelm (like what happened with the welcome thread for Slyninga269) then I'll try to be as laissez-faire as possible. But please remember to be nice and respectful of people doing other things whether you like it or not.

Now, why doesn't someone go fetch me some more pics of this car? There's a free Mazdaspeed shift knob in it for anyone who can come up with at least two more pictures of this car.

Contest Rules:
1. Must provide at least two more pictures of this car
2. Cannot be the same picture I posted
3. At least one picture must be a rear view of this car
4. Image resolution must be at least 640x480 non-scaled
5. Contest expires on February 25, 2007. If you suckas can't find it by then you don't deserve a prize.

I'll be running the same contest in the NATS 300GT Show Car 1999 Tokyo Auto Salon thread and there can only be 1 winner of the shift knob so the 1st person to do so gets the prize. Ready? GO!!!!!!!!
 

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NATS stuff is some of my favorite stuff to see at TAS. Remember, NATS aren't just regular car enthusiasts who work within a scene or a brand or a style; they're a design school whose purpose is to break rules and be as different as possible.

I like some of the details they did here. Like the rectangular sidemarker, it looks like it's from a Honda. The cowl-mounted rear view mirror is a classic touch.

Remember folks, with the right to say what you want comes the responsibility to have some tact and be respectful about it.
 

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Well, some strong reactions, both sides. This, as I understnd it, is a student project car. As such, its pretty dissappointing, being somewhat derivative in looks, and certainly not breaking any boundaries. Compare to the annual student competitions from Giugaro, Ital etc. Designs from what will be tomorrow's designers should provoke a reaction. This doesn't. It was much too timid. I suppose fine for a chop-shop trying to flog a styling kit, but I'm not sure that was the purpose of these project cars.

Anyhow, more pics:






At a guess, I'd say that was a very late build 1997 car; some NAs were sold into 1998.

I win.
 

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Congratulations! I was losing hope that anyone would find a solution (I even spent some time the past few days looking myself) but you came through victoriously. You're very good at this. Unfortunately you're costing me a fortune in shipping charges! I don't know if I still have your address on file from the last time so please PM me your address and I will put the shift knob in the post for you. If the shift knob is not to your tastes feel free to sell it on eBay, give it away to a UK member, or think up another contest and use it as a prize.
 
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