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very smart Andy ... you'll have to get a set of panasports now !!!
looks good with the Dcuatro vent lid too ...
looks good with the Dcuatro vent lid too ...
Looks nice. Are you planning to run the clear covers like original type fitted? I agree w/ your other post that this looks best on dark color cars. Too bad for me sice mine is classic red. I just picked up a set of 15x7 Panasports to get the M2-1001 replica project started so I guess now I need to start shopping for a 2nd NA in black.
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Hey Andy and Paul,
Do you know for sure whether those are authentic Garage 1001 noses or copies? Did they come with any kind of markings or labels to document the source?
Do you know for sure whether those are authentic Garage 1001 noses or copies? Did they come with any kind of markings or labels to document the source?
Unless GHO are sending Paul copies, I'd say they must be GHO noses :roll:Hey Andy and Paul,
Do you know for sure whether those are authentic Garage 1001 noses or copies? Did they come with any kind of markings or labels to document the source?
What, do you think GHO are ripping off their own products?
No, they didn't arrive with any paperwork, just a copy of the Roadster factory parts diagram, and in a box with some Japanese on. I believe Paul should have the shipping docket from Japan someplace.
As I've said before, the so-called "authentic" GHO noses are actually copies of the original M2-1001 nose stuck on a stock bumper.
yep, they are 100% gho noses and i have the import paperwork work for them and a few other items that arrived with them.Hey Andy and Paul,
Do you know for sure whether those are authentic Garage 1001 noses or copies? Did they come with any kind of markings or labels to document the source?
why are you guys still waxinglyrical about flipping replicas and copies ? :roll:
i can only imagine the threads being posted in the hidden moderators forum and the comments being made behind closed doors by the forum leaders. ahh well , i guess some things never change
It seems that these bumpers are the holy grail of parts from japan and someone once commented on here that i was lame at sourcing parts, well , it appears not.
enjoy the pictures of the noses guys, thats the closest you will ever come to these bumpers :lol:
If you guys are looking these noses , i suggest you contact adrenaline, as far as im aware phatmiata ( randy ) has been in contact with him to organise replicas of these bumpers to be distributed stateside. :shock: It will probably save you a ball on shipping plus then at least you know what your getting :roll:
time out guys ...
this is old ground and I really can't be bothered with it getting dragged on and on ...
these bumpers as far as I know are genuine items from GHO, I have spoken to Paul about this and have had quite heated discussions about some items he has stocked on his site in the past , however after having a conversation with him 99% of these issues were cleared up and we will agree to differ over zoom and zest style intakes !
As I said to Paul: when a shop/garage/retailer stocks a mixture of repro and genuine items the the repro stuuf tends to tarnish the authenticty of the branded items - this is my own opinion of which everyone is entitled to agree or disagree ...
on the otehr hand when you are spending close on $800 on an item you want to know what you are getting into so I do understand why people want assurances on goods, however this has been done and I thought dusted !
Paul and Andy: I can assure you that there has been no further back room gossip about the items or yourselves ... and just say that I am really disapointed and sorry that this has kicked off again ...
it's just a bloody bumper !
this is old ground and I really can't be bothered with it getting dragged on and on ...
these bumpers as far as I know are genuine items from GHO, I have spoken to Paul about this and have had quite heated discussions about some items he has stocked on his site in the past , however after having a conversation with him 99% of these issues were cleared up and we will agree to differ over zoom and zest style intakes !
As I said to Paul: when a shop/garage/retailer stocks a mixture of repro and genuine items the the repro stuuf tends to tarnish the authenticty of the branded items - this is my own opinion of which everyone is entitled to agree or disagree ...
on the otehr hand when you are spending close on $800 on an item you want to know what you are getting into so I do understand why people want assurances on goods, however this has been done and I thought dusted !
Paul and Andy: I can assure you that there has been no further back room gossip about the items or yourselves ... and just say that I am really disapointed and sorry that this has kicked off again ...
it's just a bloody bumper !
Glad to hear they were sourced from Garage Hundred One. I think the only question in my mind regarding these bumpers was who they were sourced from and whether they were repro or original shop since quality/ease of fitment of fiberglass copies is usually not as nice as original item and it's hard to tell until you try to install one unless they're both sitting right in front of you. This is so prevalent in US - and many sellers purposely deceive using clever language - that many people are especially cautious about it. I'm not accusing you of doing this, I'm just saying it happens. Now that's all cleared up, Are either of you planning to use the lens covers?
The lens cover I am in two minds about; the ones supplied need a little trimming to fit, plus there isn't actually much to attach it to, ruling out tape. Don't really fancy using a sealant, as that will reduce access to the lights for bulb replacement etc. They appear also to be just perspex, which I reckon will just scratch up (the nose has proved to be a superb fly catcher). Not entirely ruled them out though.
There is the assumption here that original parts are always easy to fit. these were original parts and were not easy to fit. A not inconsiderable amount of work was needed to get the fit you see. Though, perhaps Roadsters owners are spoilt, as the bodyman didn't think they were too bad. Fitting does require a bit of surgery to the car; you need to take an angle grinder to the plastic bumper bar, in order to clear the light pods. Some Japanese owners have griped about the gap lines of this, but I reckon they have cars that have bad panel gaps to start with.
There is the assumption here that original parts are always easy to fit. these were original parts and were not easy to fit. A not inconsiderable amount of work was needed to get the fit you see. Though, perhaps Roadsters owners are spoilt, as the bodyman didn't think they were too bad. Fitting does require a bit of surgery to the car; you need to take an angle grinder to the plastic bumper bar, in order to clear the light pods. Some Japanese owners have griped about the gap lines of this, but I reckon they have cars that have bad panel gaps to start with.
Bill, ......... really, couldnt you just PM him questions on his products, lets not start a war here. This is not the type of comments we need buzzing around. This is very dissapointing. :?Hey Andy and Paul,
Do you know for sure whether those are authentic Garage 1001 noses or copies? Did they come with any kind of markings or labels to document the source?
Your out of line Paul, i DO have a front bumper on order from Adrenaline Racing, which will be airmailed directly to me from GHO, as far as copies goes, you are just spreading childish rumors. Grow up Mate!If you guys are looking these noses , i suggest you contact adrenaline, as far as im aware phatmiata ( randy ) has been in contact with him to organise replicas of these bumpers to be distributed stateside. :shock: It will probably save you a ball on shipping plus then at least you know what your getting :roll:
I have not commented on any of your bodykit threads because i dont feel i need to ........... so dont drag my name into this childish crap, BTW this thread is toast! :evil:
Bill (RoadstarJDM): That was not cool to incite an argument that most felt was over with.
Paul, please accept my personal apology for this being brought up again.
Let's all put this to bed, please.
If I recal, Bill, you are wanting to borrow a few OEM pieces so that you can manufacture copies. Am I right?
Let's just drop it alrady. :x
Paul, please accept my personal apology for this being brought up again.
Let's all put this to bed, please.
If I recal, Bill, you are wanting to borrow a few OEM pieces so that you can manufacture copies. Am I right?
Let's just drop it alrady. :x
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I sincerely apologize to you guys who think I was "inciting an argument."Bill (RoadstarJDM): That was not cool to incite an argument that most felt was over with.
What I thought I had done was asked a legitimate technical question: how does one identify an "authentic" body kit part from a knock-off/clone/copy/replica/whatever.
I'm sorry if Andy and/or Paul or anyone else took my question any other way. They've got the parts in front of them, I don't, I was asking if they had any identifying marks on them, end of story, no ulterior motive, no accusations of anything.
Please accept my apology, too. I'm sorry if I asked my question on the wrong thread and unwittingly opened a "wound." I had honestly forgotten about "that episode" since, as you may recall, it ran its course while I was asleep and I wasn't involved first-hand.timallen said:Paul, please accept my personal apology for this being brought up again.
Actually, you're wrong. The parts I was talking about reproducing are discontinued and I've seen many requests for them to be made available again. That's very different than making cheap copies of currently available parts, whether domestic or JDM. To do so would be equivalent to stealing, which I don't do. I am a rigorously honest person, as anyone who knows me can tell you.timallen said:If I recal, Bill, you are wanting to borrow a few OEM pieces so that you can manufacture copies. Am I right?
That said, to defuse this drama, I killed my post seeking the R-spec parts to borrow.
Sorry again for stepping on anyone's toes.
Bill
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