[the blue potato]

Tonight I test drove a 94 CSP prepped Miata without rear sway bar and it was incredible...great response and great understeer. With my JR tube/sways, my car now feels a bit crazy -- without the rear sway bar, the Miata just felt more predictable...I also have another buddy who runs his 95 without rear sway bar - but I always thought it was because he was from South Africa :?

Has anyone else tried this?

 

[kung fu jesus]

peter, i ran mine like that for a couple of weeks. i know the sensation.

i re-installed it. i'm also convinced aftermarket sways are a waste on the miata. i fell they ruin the car's transition in a slolam and for everyday use, they ruin the ride quality.

 

[the blue potato]

So you removed it - liked it then went back with it installed due to everyday ride quality issues?

 

[[email protected]]

It is not uncommon to disconnect the rear sway bar on a Spec Miata, especially in the rain. It does make the car push a little more.

Really depends on how you want the car to be set-up really, everyone has their own idea of what a perfect handling Miata is. Plus there are so many factors that affect how the car is going to handle, and sway bars should really be used as a final chassis tuning device.

Don't know where I was going with all of this, but hoped it helped somehow.

 

[revlimiter]

I don't use a rear sway. I use a big-ass NB hollow front sway, and no rear sway at all. It makes everything better in my opinion. The car is much more confidence inspiring, easier to drive, and most important, faster around the autocross course.

Around town, it's more comfortable without the rear sway too. That's just a side benefit.

 

[kung fu jesus]

i left my rear sway on because i'm not the only person who drives the car.

 

[BAM!]

...and most important, faster around the autocross course.

driver preference. i frove about 15k miles w/ a broken rear sway bar mounting stud. it took me awhile to get used to it again.... i like it now, but at first, it felt like oversteer.

 

[firedog25]

One of my Miata buddys has stock springs and stock sway bars. He did a trial and error on some I guess and he drives a long, twisty road to work... in Southern California it's relatively well known, the Angeles Crest Highway. He swears stock sways are the way to go.

 

[nodnarb]

For my 1999 NB Miata, I just upgraded my front sway bar to the Racing beat tubular bar, and kept the rear stock. IMO I like this setup in that my steering is very neutral, no sign of understeer and very minimal oversteer, and the body roll is reduced significantly. But it really depends on what you do, and how you like your car to be handled. Based on other forums I read, I hear upgrading to an aftermarket rear sway bar gives the car a little too much oversteer.

 

[Stealth97]

If I wanted understeer, Id just unbolt the steering colum from the rack :lol:

 

[[email protected]]

Stealth: Why do that when it is cheaper and easier to just take your hands off the wheel :wink:

 

[kung fu jesus]

He swears stock sways are the way to go.

+1

i totally agree.

 

[Mr.Woolery]

Haven't run sans rear sways yet, but plan to try it when the project car is back on the road. Higher spring rates make the sways less important, the rears even less.

Plus it takes a few pounds off the car. :wink:

 

[TrophyFodder]

Cars don't understeer drivers do.

 

[anti-FWD]

I ran my car w/o rear sway bar too. with RB hallow sway up front. tires run 25psi all around. tein set up for street is 7 clicks from stiff to soft up front and 9 clicks from stiff to soft in the rear. very balance car. very easy to drive fast in corners.

 

[LUV2TURN]

You guys want no rear sway bar??? :-k :-s My car pushes too much, I'm thinking I want a bigger rear sway bar....I'll wait until I install new suspension, but damn...

 

[Matt [exz3owner]]

you can't look at this in a vaccuum. If you can run high enough spring rates, sways don't matter as much. And if you have more power, you can compensate for the bias toward understeer without the rear bar. A thick front bar and no rear seems aweful biased to me. But your spring rates and alignment could probably compensate for that...

I ran RB larger sways on my last car, but with the cage, I can up the spring rates without chassis deflection. So I've done that and have stuck with stock sways so far. The only thing I don't like about the stock bars is thier lack of adjustability.

 

[LagunaMiata]

If we have a test-n-tune I plan on taking my stock sway and comparing it with the RB one. May also pull an end link off the RB bar and see what happens.
If a T-n-T doesn't happen, I'll do it at our 24hr autocross in Sept.

 

[airbrush1]

On my 2000.... I have the racing beat tubular front bar, and a flyin miata rear bar. The front bar is set on it's softest setting, and the rear bar is on the middle setting. Have racing beat endlinks also. The car feels well balanced with this setup, and much more comfortable at the limit. Oversteer is predictable and easy to control, and the car doesn't push nearly as much as it did stock

 

[tetsuyagarage]

good reading...i guess i can try this as one of my summer projects