[jesseclee]

It's round 11, right? OK- the usual caveats apply- the know-it-alls (You know who you are!!!) please hang back

1. In modular wheel parlance,what is a 'reverse' rim?

2. For extra credit, what is a 'Full reverse' rim?

 

[freedomgli]

Even I have trouble with this. Measurements I can understand. But using enigmatic terminology to describe whether or not the wheels might actually fit my particular application confuses me.

 

[boogie van]

negative offset?


which would lead me to think full reverse would mean its such a negative offset that its almost as if you mounted a fwd offset wheel backwards on your car \/

 

[jesseclee]

Even I have trouble with this. Measurements I can understand. But using enigmatic terminology to describe whether or not the wheels might actually fit my particular application confuses me.

I managed to stump Kyle!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: didn't think that would happen!!!!

And Boogie-van: It doesn't have anything to do with negative offsets.

 

[LUV2TURN]

I don't know the exact answer, but I can offer a hint:

Think SSR Reverse Mesh...

 

[Agent935]

Is it when the mesh is bolted on to to the rim in front (eg: ssr), rather than behind it (eg: bbs)?

Reverse:

Regular:

 

[jesseclee]

Is it when the mesh is bolted on to to the rim in front (eg: ssr), rather than behind it (eg: bbs)?

nope, that's not it...

 

[LUV2TURN]

So I've spent the last half hour on the 'net trying to figure this out. Here's what I've found out:

Not. ****.

Looking at pictures of SSR Formula Mesh and SSR Reverse Mesh next to each other, they look identical except for the colors (which could be just the particular pics they had on this website)

I'd be glad if someone could explain this one :?

 

[timallen]

If you look at one section of mesh, think of a triangle.

On the BBS wheel, the "triangle" points toward the center of the wheel with the legs angling out toward the rim of the wheel.

On the SSR, this is "reversed" where the triangle points toward the rim of the wheel, or even touching the edge of the "mesh" as is the case above.

"Full reverse" I don't know...

Am I right?

Btw, I WANT THOSE RS-1s!!!!

 

[jesseclee]

....

On the BBS wheel, the "triangle" points toward the center of the wheel with the legs angling out toward the rim of the wheel.

On the SSR, this is "reversed" where the triangle points toward the rim of the wheel, or even touching the edge of the "mesh" as is the case above.
...

I had to think hard to envision what you're sayiing .... but no. The 'reverse' thing is not at all specific to mesh rims. It could apply modular rims of almost any designs. Even though the SSR Formula Mesh/SSR Reverse Mesh are probably the most well-known and popular examples of it.

Anyone else?

 

[LUV2TURN]

Does it have anything to do with 2-piece/3-piece wheels and the way the individual components thereof are designed?

I'm really shooting in the dark here

 

[jesseclee]

Does it have anything to do with 2-piece/3-piece wheels and the way the individual components thereof are designed?

It applies generally to 3 piece rims. It has to do w/ how the individual components come together.

 

[jesseclee]

Anyone else? How about the know-it-alls?

 

[roadsternut]

Centre Hub section is flipped 180 degrees, so the wheel mounts inside out. Common on old grass autocrossing Minis, on cars with drum brakes, to give more offset. Not really JDm question this. You can also get reverse rim steel wheels. Essentially wheels usually give more width bias to the inside. Reverse rims give more bias to the outside; its origianlly done to overcome odd clearance problems, but hotrodders like it to give a wide look *they sed to cut the centree out, flip it over, and weld back in). I guess "full reverse rim" refers to the degree of offset/bias used.

 

[jesseclee]

Alright- Roadsternut comes the closest to being correct. I'll reveal the answer then:

Traditionally most JDM 3 piece rims are made such that the outter rim has a step rolled into it for strength. The inner rim has no step (for caliper clearance) and is smooth all the way from the lip to the mounting flange.

For the reverse rim, the smooth inner rim is used on the outside as well. Such that when you look at the rim from the outside- it is smooth from the lip all the way to the wheel center.

The full reverse wheel is a further evoluton of the reverse wheel. In the reverse wheel, since they are still using the components from the original traditional wheel, there is still a gap between the edge of the wheel center and the unstepped rim. The full reverse wheel has a larger wheel center which is flushed with the rim. No more unsightly gap.

 

[roadsternut]

As I said, it appears to have first appeared on Mini Coopers; to enable drum braked cars to get wider wheels. The original reverse rim wheels were made by Dunlop. It was developed very much with a practical benefit in mind, not aesthetics, and not confined to bolt together wheels.

 

[dale]

Does it mean then that a full reverse rim or a reverse rim will dent easily on pot holes? ( no step on the outer edge)

 

[druz]

Kinesis and HRE offer both styles, "reverse drop center" or "standard profile center". Most reverse wheels require 90 degree valve stems too.

http://www.kinesismotorsport.com/forged.htm has pics to compare and a little definition.

 

[asianrice02]

those wheels are nice but a pain in the ass to take care of. bling factor? just how durable are 3 piece wheels anyways?

 

[vicious-s]

durable enough for lambos, ferarris, and panteras.

3 piece wheels are strong and light.