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how much are the for the pair? Whatever the cost, if they are cheap, but one REAL seat.
 

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This guy is selling one seat for 100 brand new. Should I or not. All I need is one seat as my car sees more track time than daily use.
 

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whats up..i have black tenzo r dtms...they are good..but you gotta be "fit" cause they are kinda snug...but yeah they are sturdy...i did a custom bracket mount to mount on the stock sliders very easy to to do and i like it it's very comfortable and supports my back..IMHO it's way better than the stock seats in comfort
 

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Tenzo.....ew.
Cheap seats. I'm hoping they have a frame, and not just a fiberglass backing.
 

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Are you sure they are cheap seats? These look very well constructed and they do have a frame like my corbeau clubman.

They are also made in japan according to the OK sticker it came with. Is there something I am missing? Please shed some lite on this. Pricing is right there with MOMO Start and Corbeau Forza/Clubman.?
So cheap as in material not as in price...?
 

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DTM-Type Sport Seats
These are the base model/racing seat in Tenzo's line. These are a
non-reclineable narrow shell seat. They are best suited for average to
small waisted people around 36" or less. Great for the pure racing look
but are not FIA approved for actual track use.
Seats are sold individually.
Tenzo R DTM-Type Sport Seats $145.00/ea
From the website. Emphasis by me.

Do whacha-like, it's your money. :D
 

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OK so they are not FIA approved.....not what I am asking here...Your stock seats are not fia approved. I am not a hardcore racer just a track day junkie. The experience I am looking for is, will it kill me in an accident(has anybody heard anthing?) and is it a good seat for track days. FIA approval would be nice but thats for real racing. Safety wise I just need it to be as safe as my stock seat. I had a Corbeau clubman but I could not live with the "Hardcoreness" of the seat. Getting in and out of it was a pain.
 

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In my opinion, No FIA, no buy.

FIA certification ensures the seats WON'T break. OEMs do similar.

Without some sanctioning body, be it the US government, or FIA/similar, there's no saying whether it'll break at 2gs or 20. There's no guarantee if it'll be safe on the street much less the track. We may not need 20g-safe seats, but we do need some sort of oversight.

In your shoes, i'd pass.
 

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Tenzo seats are cheap quality and not comfy. I sat in some reclinable ones a few years back and wasn't too happy with them. They're about as snug as 240sx seats in terms of holding you in the seat.

As far as the frame, if it is tubular, good. However, I wouldn't bother with it if you want to trust the seat you're in.
 

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Thanks guys for your opinions on this matter. But has anyone heard of something bad about these seats?

Actual documented problems.

I sat in the DTM seat and it fits me just fine w/ good lateral support. Quality seems high, but time will tell.

Looks like the opinion is moving toward that they are unsafe and poor quality.

Is Tenzo another brand made for Ebay?
 

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well people think..whatever they say..MOSTLIKELY they never been in the DTM seats before..they are just talking cause it's tenzo R.. who cares...we all dont have millions of dollars in the banks...THATS WHY WE HAVE MIATAS...you think we would be driving miatas if we have all the money in the world? if you like it you buy it..i have them in my car and they are very sturdy...they dont move around when i *wiggle* in the seat..it's lightweight but also have very good construction...
 

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Thanks guys for your opinions on this matter. But has anyone heard of something bad about these seats?

Actual documented problems.

I sat in the DTM seat and it fits me just fine w/ good lateral support. Quality seems high, but time will tell.

Looks like the opinion is moving toward that they are unsafe and poor quality.

Is Tenzo another brand made for Ebay?
I've personally never seen a documented problem with them, but that would be saying that I've never seen a set randomly disintegrate. I've never knowingly seen the seats go through anything bad either.

My personal opinion is that they're unproven, that's the only thing I have against 'em. Tenzo's not exclusively a eBay brand, but they've always been kinda at that pep-boys/ebay level in my mind.

I say give 'em a try. My safety is worth more to me, but as long as it's not my ass in the seat. ... ;)
 

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well people think..whatever they say..MOSTLIKELY they never been in the DTM seats before..they are just talking cause it's tenzo R.. who cares...we all dont have millions of dollars in the banks...THATS WHY WE HAVE MIATAS...you think we would be driving miatas if we have all the money in the world? if you like it you buy it..i have them in my car and they are very sturdy...they dont move around when i *wiggle* in the seat..it's lightweight but also have very good construction...
I don't have to sit in it to know that its crap. In fact, just sitting in it won't tell me anything cause we're not talking about comfort, we're talking about safety. I've personally seen a collapsed "race look" ebay-seat at a local speed shop and it's "carbon-fiber" shell snapped in half like a Chinese take-out chopstick. Hey, shoes from Payless are pretty cheap and look like the real deal, but they fall apart, I'll pay extra for some Bostonians, thank you. Bottom line, we have no clue to what standards those shells are made by because the only standard they go by is "cheap, highest profit-margin". Sorry, I don't trust products from a company that also sells faux-carbon fiber cell-phone holders. Companies pay a lot of money to have seats certified by an independant source, ever price an OEM seat before? On OEM seats, the recliner mechanism is built to a standard thats says "mechanism must be able to withstand yada,yada,ya forces". Real bucket seats (and recliners) are certified by the FIA. What are the cheap ebay-seats held to? Who does the testing on them? And guess what, when they fail to meet FIA standards, they are no longer certified. Remember the debacle a few years ago when Recaro got one their seats pulled? http://www.cams.com.au/content.asp?PageID=Article&ObjectID=141

Name brand "JDM" seats like Bride or Buddy Club gets a free-pass on me (for now) because at least they are being used in competition and are in the process of getting certified, are there any ebay-seats currently being used in any professional competitions?

Using the comparison of "we all dont have millions of dollars in the banks...THATS WHY WE HAVE MIATAS" makes no sense to me and is totally irrelevant to the topic. It would be a dis-service if we didn't put forth the perspective of safety. If the safety factor means less to you then price, then hey, it's a free country. Let me help you out with another cheap seat maker that also makes faux-carbon fiber wiper blades:

http://www.slickcar.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=2918 Happy shopping!

And for the record, if I had a million dollars in the bank, I'd still keep my miata and buy another one :D
 

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Thanks for the input guys. Lets close this post before the <name-calling deleted by moderator>. I've heard enough. Tenzo....maybe?or maybe not?
 

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I vote "Tenzo No"
Mainly b/c I've sat in their seats, and I wasn't impressed. The foam felt weak in terms of bolstering, the covers on my buddy's car showed signs of wear after only a few months (reclinable seats, btw), they weren't comfy to me, and being FIA approved is important to my safety, and should be to your's...therefore anything that isn't should be passed up.
However, if this seat is new to the market (idk, I don't look at Tenzo products ever) or has the right design (i.e. kevlar or steel frame) go ahead and buy it and prove us wrong.

And yes, I do have a bias against anything that sayd Tenzo R on it. They're like APC in my book. Cheap design, inexpensive price, and not worth my dimes.
 
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