[jerryscherry]

Im debating whether or not to get ISC tophats for my ricelands... or just start saving for another setup.

I know it will free up some shock travel, but will this mean a improved ride quality? Im mainly looking for a less harsh ride, and if isc tophats can improve that then i will be getting them.

How do they ride for all you people who have isc tophats on their ricelands? if its not a big difference ima just live through it till i save for a more decent setup..



My current options is to either get ISC tophats, or save for some Megans Coils. I don't plan to do anything too crazy with the car, mostly daily driving. But are Megan Coilovers a big upgrade from racelands? I have ridden on them in a s2k and they were great, very comfy and firm, but at the same time i have never been on racelands with proper tophats with proper shock travel

*Updates* 04/03/2012

Got the isc tophats installed, gave it a bit more of a drop, now im tucking a bit of tire in the front and rear. Ride is MUCHHH MORE COMFORTABLE! but now im havng rubbing issues :/ rubbing on the inside when i take a dip too fast, or enter a plaza too quick, TOO MUCH SHOCK TRAVEL? im running 15x9 6ul wit 195 /50 in front 205/60 in the rear.. (came wit it)

 

[imnatelol]

Raise your car

 

[1vicissitude]

How low are you? A picture or hub to fender measurement would be of help.

If you are slammed they will give you travel back. Although, if you are slammed you need to ask yourself, do you really want suspension movement? It just means more bottoming out and having your wheels potentially fly up into your wells/fender over bumps. Stiffer the better in my opinion when slammed. Being slammed isn't a thing of comfort, raise the car if you want that.

 

[jerryscherry]

haha i wouldn't even say im low enough to be moderatly slammed, rarely scrape ever i take bumps and dips full on with out having to turn left or right,

and as for comfort, ive ridden in my friends s2k and hes slammed on megans, like u can only fit a mini lighter under the lip, but the ride quality is great, which is why i was debating whether i should just ditch the ricelands

 

[del_barry]

you should ditch them..... and sell them to me cheap

 

[sw96]

If you have NB tophats already you can have a shop cut them and extend them for pretty cheap. I just sold a set on the marketplace for 55$ shipped. Shop work shouldnt be more than 30-40$ for a set.

 

[1vicissitude]

If you aren't even mod slammed the tophats won't do anything for you. You has suspension travel. You are just experiencing shitty coilovers. The hats won't make them ride magically better, they just give you back travel you lost because you lowered the car too much.

 

[jerryscherry]

you should ditch them..... and sell them to me cheap

haha i will let u know when isell em, only had em for like 2 months

If you aren't even mod slammed the tophats won't do anything for you. You has suspension travel. You are just experiencing shitty coilovers. The hats won't make them ride magically better, they just give you back travel you lost because you lowered the car too much.

okay , because someone informed me that if you lower the rear at all of a miata you get basically almost no shock travel at all, which is why i was bringing up the question, thanks for clarifying x)

 

[acedeuce802]

I think it would help a lot. However, you have to decide if you want to put money into shitty coilovers, whereas you could've gotten higher quality coilovers in the first place.

 

[jerryscherry]

I think it would help a lot. However, you have to decide if you want to put money into shitty coilovers, whereas you could've gotten higher quality coilovers in the first place.

exactly!, such a hard decision, ain't looking for hardcore performance as i wont be a hardcore tracking, but decent ride and build quality is good, as i have my eyes set on megans x)

anybody heard about them GOdspeed coilovers LOL? i've had one of their turbo kit before, seemed to work fine until vehicle was stolen... :/

 

[ChrisJuliano]

I am mod slammed with ricelands and ISC tophats (2" in rear) and NA tophats in front and you can tell its a HUGE difference, the rear is comfy and the front is bouncy and shitty. I plan on getting NB tophats or 1" isc tophats for the front before spring.

If your barely even low I dont think youll see any benefits.

 

[jerryscherry]

I am mod slammed with ricelands and ISC tophats (2" in rear) and NA tophats in front and you can tell its a HUGE difference, the rear is comfy and the front is bouncy and shitty. I plan on getting NB tophats or 1" isc tophats for the front before spring.

If your barely even low I dont think youll see any benefits.

hmm i see... well i think think im mod slammed but ill take a pic and let you guys decide and see, so before w/o the isc tophats the rears felt like shitt/

 

[govnor]

I recently put in Rokkors, which is the same as ricelands and I did the 1", 1.5" tophats. I haven't experienced the riceland without the hats, but my experience has been that these ride really well and I don't understand all of the hate they get. That said, most of the hate comes from folks without the top hats. I'm lowered about 3" in the rear and the ride is not harsh or bouncy. I took out the helper springs also. The car feels a lot more solid than with my 1.5" lowered springs/tokico setup that I had before.

 

[maykelcj]

I don't get all the hate either. I recently bought a car that came with the Racelands and I put them on my car. They ride better than stock, they might not be good for a track car because they are soft, but they are better than stock. My car has ~104k and the worn shocks were really soft. Mind that most haters out there are super slamed and that will render most shocks useless. I'm about 11.75-12" hub to fender all around and the ride is not bouncy and all this on stock tophats. The previous owner cut the bump-stops, so might be the fact I'm not slamed and I might not be hitting the bumps-stops much, I feel for the price, racelands are not bad at all.

 

[jerryscherry]

ahah well i guess ill invest in some ISC tophats 85$ for a pair isn't going to break the wallet xP, thanks for the input and everyone's experiences

 

[seaninc]

I recently put in Rokkors, which is the same as ricelands and I did the 1", 1.5" tophats. I haven't experienced the riceland without the hats, but my experience has been that these ride really well and I don't understand all of the hate they get. That said, most of the hate comes from folks without the top hats. I'm lowered about 3" in the rear and the ride is not harsh or bouncy. I took out the helper springs also. The car feels a lot more solid than with my 1.5" lowered springs/tokico setup that I had before.

+1. My Rokkors ride pretty harshly because I'm on the bumpstops all the time. I've driven a car with Racelands and ISCs and the ride is really nice. For a street car they're totally fine.

 

[jerryscherry]

For those of you who used the isc top hat, did you guys install it with or without the top spring collar piece? ( the aluminum ring that goes under the tophat and above the main spring)

 

[govnor]

For those of you who used the isc top hat, did you guys install it with or without the top spring collar piece? ( the aluminum ring that goes under the tophat and above the main spring)

I used it. I took a dremel and grinded the inside edge of the top hat. It doesn't fit perfectly, but if you grind it down some it will sort of fit and won't move around. Without doing anything it seemed like it would move around too much. Plus it makes some cool sparks when you're grinding.

 

[M00CHER]

This is the set-up that is currently on my car. Allows for a much better ride. I am slammed and the tophats make it so I'm not banging on the bumpstops constantly... Just my .02

 

[jerryscherry]

I used it. I took a dremel and grinded the inside edge of the top hat. It doesn't fit perfectly, but if you grind it down some it will sort of fit and won't move around. Without doing anything it seemed like it would move around too much. Plus it makes some cool sparks when you're grinding.

ahh i see xP, was hoping didn't have to grind it down, :x, anyone used it without grinding it?